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by ben_w 13 days ago
UK has (for now) the Human Rights Act and is a (for now) subject to the jurisdiction of (by being a founding member of) the European Court of Human Rights.

Which is not to excuse the errors, but to put it in context: it is a European country… albeit just like Turkey and Azerbaijan.
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trumpdong 13 days ago
In the UK I'd be worried about being arbitrarily arrested, deported, and banned from re-entry.

In the US I'd be worried about being murdered. By police. In cold blood.

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flumpcakes 13 days ago
> In the UK I'd be worried about being arbitrarily arrested, deported, and banned from re-entry.

That's not going to happen unless you commit a serious crime, in which case it's not arbitrary. I can't think of a single case that's made the news.

Meanwhile across the pond in America you have the nightly news reporting on children and people in cages screaming. People being rounded up for not being white. Little to no due process at all until you've been through 6 rounds of hell.

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trumpdong 13 days ago
By "commit a serious crime" I assume you mean "publicly state that I support Palestine Action" or maybe "hold a blank sign at a protest". Those are serious crimes in the UK now. But as I said, the worst they're going to do is kick me out, not kill me, and that makes the difference.
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flumpcakes 12 days ago
> I assume you mean "publicly state that I support Palestine Action"

They are currently a proscribed group, so yes, that is included in the list of things you probably shouldn't do. You're not going to get killed for it though. You're probably not even going to get arrested in most cases.

Whether or not they should be proscribed is a different issue. The best course of action is probably to wait for the courts to decide. Pressure groups damaging military assets probably aren't going to be well received by the public regardless of which cause they're for.

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foldr 13 days ago
Small factual correction: the barrister holding the blank sign was not in fact arrested.
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diordiderot 13 days ago
It's actually easy to avoid getting killed.

Simply don't chase, harass, attempt to run over, or assault LEOs doing their jobs

Hope that helps.

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ben_w 13 days ago
Americans have been killed by American cops without doing those things whose absence you claim will prevent being killed.
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joe463369 12 days ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBUUx0jUKxc
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none2585 13 days ago
Also make sure you're white!
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diordiderot 13 days ago
Lol it's American whites who are so detached from the reality of violence.

Why did people suddenly stop talking about body cams after mass adoption. Maybe it didn't show you what you thought it would.

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