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by melon_tusk 8 days ago
I don't see how Zig will ever contend with Odin, Jai, C3 and others when they drive away half of the prospective users with activism.
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I recommend you to watch Andrew Kelly interview[0], while I'm not the target audience of Zig, I don't see him driving away any user. Also Jai as for now is a non existing language, just a selected few has access to it, but Jai approach is a kitchen sink, from what I saw it is all over the place in terms of features, now Zig vision feels cohesive.

[0] https://youtu.be/iqddnwKF8HQ

Thanks for sharing that link. That guy seems so nice, quite inspiring.
Activism as in their move away from GitHub? Andrew K recently said in the JetBrains interview that because of moving away, their CI/CD now actually works.
What activism is that?
I think they banned AI and moved from GitHub to Codeberg. They don't seem too controversial to me, and IMO they've already comprehensively trounced Odin, Jai and C3.
trying to make good software :^)
truly a tragedy! how dare you make good software!?!
I've never seen any activism from the Zig crowd (I assume you need Woke and rubbing "pride" or "Ukraine" into everything). Did I miss something?
> I assume you need Woke and rubbing "pride" or "Ukraine" into everything

wow, what a self report

Jai isn't even available publicly. The license isn't decided. Jonathan Blow doesn't want to deal with open source.

Comparing Jai and Zig on that behalf is crazy.

Edit: If that is about political activism it's even more crazy. A dude that rambles about woke stuff is political as well. Maybe just aligns with yours.

Excuse me, but I think zig grows ever better from driving away users who are driven away by flashy headlines and whatever is the opposite of this “activism” you suggest.
>when they drive away half of the prospective users with activism.

Like what? Plenty of people here follows Zig here and haven't seen any of it. And by any measure it is the least activism per language usage.