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by lukan 6 days ago
Yet swatting, making police kick in the doors and shoot the dogs of someone who was victim of anonymous slander, isn't really a thing here in europe compared to the US.
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The US has a good constitution but worse policing.
What good is a piece of paper? I have nice toilet paper. It doesn't make me safer when visiting the US.
Maybe you're not safer, but you can get rich quick. Recently someone got $100k compensation for fake DUI charges and resulting wrongful imprisonment.
Interesting entry for the "pro" list.
The entire point of a constitution is that, unlike toilet paper, it can be enforced by the courts.
The very politicized US courts that collude with and are completely in the pocket of whomever's running the country? More developed countries have a clear separation between the judiciary and the executive powers.
In theory, unless the supreme court is bought and paid for and decrees things like "immunity for official business".
Can be, or is? Courts can enforce my toilet paper too.
Trying to imagine how, and the only thing I can think of is that technically you can write a contract on anything? And possibly a cheque, too, because a the cheques in a chequebook are just a standardised IOU form with exactly the same legal weight as if it was done by hand?

(Vague memory that someone used this to avoid paying a bill, because refusing a cheque when offered counted as discharging the debt it represents (if I have the right terminology), and as cheques could be written on anything they chose to write it on a car that physically would not fit through the door).

Just gotta bribe the right judge. My toilet paper says you owe me $10,000 and the judge agrees.
And which one are the courts enforcing at the moment in the US? Pretti? Good?
The user you replied to was talking about UK, not Europe.
The UK is a part of Europe.
Geographically, that's quite the zinger. Legally, no. Different laws.
Europe has many many different jurisdictions.

Even if you take the European Union alone and ignore all the other European countries, the EU only legislates over a subset of things for member countries.

The EU has no sovereignty, countries (like Hungary and Germany) can openly disobey it and the worst they can do is kick them out of the EU
kick them out of the EU

AFAIK, not even that. This topic came up in relation to Hungary (before Orban was gone). What I understood from the discussion is that a country can only be punished by not giving them EU funds, etc.

> the worst they can do is kick them out of the EU

As opposed to what? Armed invasion?

Much less the UK.
I'm not sure how much less it is than, say, Bosnia, Serbia, Belarus, Kosovo...
My first two sentences were about the UK. The third was general.