[yubblegum]

> the country that has done the most for the cause of freedom

Need a history refresher. Let's skip the Magna Carta since that was really about giving power to feudal lords. Do you mean British empire being the unwitting and unwilling cause of United States?

When, in God's green Earth, have the "lords" that lord it over the "subjects of crown" common people of that island have been vanguards of "freedom" when it did not serve their own class interests?

[ffsm8]

UKs ban on slavery across their territories was in 1830 I think?

That should be a few decades before the civil war in the USA about the same issue.

The US was actually pretty much the last Western civilization to abolish slavery from what I recall from history class.

[sebastiennight]

But three decades after France abolished it (the first time)

[croes]

Have you read parent‘s comment until the end?

> having led the way in abolishing slavery

[yubblegum]

Oh, I missed that "let us now, assembled noble lords, end this abominable institution through which we have become filthy rich. And my lords, what say ye regarding pushing drugs to the wretches of Asia?"

As they like to say in England, bullocks!

[croes]

So you can’t do a good thing just because you do other bad things?

So you must be either a saint (who also did a lit of bad things) or the devil himself (who punishes bad people).

You could just simply acknowledge the fact that Britain was one of the first major powers to abolish slave trade and later slavery across its empire, and it actively pushed other countries to follow.

[yubblegum]

>> the country that has done the most for the cause of freedom

That is the claim that has been challenged by many here. It's just too much, and I am not even Irish ..

[croes]

in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king

I guess the track record of other countries isn’t much better

[yubblegum]

As soon as "other countries" are mentioned as having done "the most" for freedom of bipeds I promise you they will roasted as well. 'k?