[Paradigm2020]

Not religious at all but... "To those who is given much..."

If all they do is not have kids and claim that we are a cancer the minimum they could do is that other classic

Speaking is silver but silence is gold...

And well I firmly believe the biggest problem is the pervasive desire to be weak and complain by those who have the possibility of actual impact.

The battle is lost before it's fought and all.

But yeah we are being led by people with "inferior" visions for the world ~ Plato... But calling ourselves shit ain't gonna help it's just giving yourself and easy exit.

[willmarch]

You might not like it, but by choosing not to reproduce they ARE having an actual impact on the world (as this debate about their actions demonstrates).

Maybe we, as a species, would have better long term outcomes if we reflected more before blindly charging forward exactly as our parents did (and their parents before them).

Maybe they feel we should choose a different course and look for better/different ways of living and being as a species. There is no such thing as infinite growth, we should probably act accordingly.

[Paradigm2020]

If talking is impact there is an impact. But it makes the word kind of meaningless (a common issue).

All I know from them is their words... Which I hope we can agree where kind of negative (I personally prefer not to be a cancer hbu ?)

There is no such thing "as a species"... It's not like we are ants... Some groups of humans/individuals are net neutral, some net positive and most net negative.

The question is always about incentives and externalities... and not what we as a nation/city/... Whatever prefer but what we are willing to stop doing...

At the end of the day the world is the way it is because the people who choose the game are the ones who keep playing it.

The thing that got me with his comment is that he based on his website is relatively succesful... Unlike this fake belief that billionaires hold all the power it is in general the 0.1% that hold the power... With the consent of rhe 9.9% and he's most likely 9.9% ...

This not having kids as a noble sacrifice is just choosing to be weak tbh unless he's actually tried but if that is the case it's definitely not in public.

[willmarch]

Using a metaphor to illustrate a point is neither negative nor positive, what matters is if it is helpful in communicating.

The often quoted: "Infinite growth is the mentality of a cancer cell" is fairly accurate for describing human growth (when there is no real concern for any externalities such as environmental preservation or resource conservation). The abstract comparison does not bother me in the slightest.

Humans are a species like any other animal/insect. Ants have workers and drones, soldiers and queens (some ants evolved to do nearly nothing as a reserve work force). Trying to defining the worth of sentient beings based on abstract value functions (positive/negative, success/failure) is a narrow and sad way of looking at the world.

I have no idea what "game" you are referring to. Are you talking about life? I think that is a sad way to look at the world. Life isn't a game and there are many ways to live a good life while helping others (kin or not).

Not having children can be a noble sacrifice if someone is doing it to prevent passing on chronic illness or to prevent suffering. Someone caring for elderly parents and choosing to delay having children indefinitely does not make them "weak" as you like to suggest. Giving up something you want for the greater good of the world around you is worth understanding, maybe even worth emulating.

You seem to be looking at life and existence through an extremely narrow lens and judging people without really knowing anything about them. Hurling insults around casually as if you have everything figured out, which you do not (nobody does).

I would suggest you take time to talk to people more about their life and experiences before judging them so harshly. Try to hold back your insults and practice empathy instead; you might learn something about life and its vast breadth of expressions.

[Paradigm2020]

You seem to be making a lot of assumptions about the person I was replying to, all positive and me allmost all of them negative...

I would suggest you a mirror + ass out of you and me reminder... The human ability to know the motives about the other person is severely overestimated...

I wanted to have a friendly philosophical thought experiment / different pov with the original poster, if he had the time and desire to do so. instead you butted in and went into a full blown j'accuse style which was very unpalatable.

I wish you a nice day touching some grass and enjoying all the beautiful stuff a cancer iyho has created. Take care.

[willmarch]

You really can’t stop with the insults and name calling. Can you blame a person for not wanting to engage with your abusive style of “conversation”?

[Paradigm2020]

You keep reading between lines that aren't there.

Personally, especially in the age of llm's, I wouldn't do so much projection and insinuation under a profile that is linked to your online/real identity.

While on the one hand strong opinions are generally appreciated, not too many people who consider themselves a cancer are looking for some to help them with "overall growth."...

I guess for some reason it struck a nerve and that's why you felt the need to continue (well and sunken cost phallacy obviously) but again no upside and unlimited downside.

Anyway if you're in vietnam hmu for a drink but imho do yourself a favor and stop trying to get imaginary internet points - we are all dogs (on the internet ...) for good or bad but you have a name.

Take care.

[trumpdong]

You are using so many words to tell a person they should just kill themselves without directly saying it. I flagged your comment anyway. I hope the moderator understands the context.

[Paradigm2020]

If that is the (logical) conclusion you come to maybe the answer is that the person should be more careful about their choice of words because of the conclusion it leads to ?

Not that I expect too much deep thinking of someone who chooses to call themself trumpdong...