[hansvm]

> otherwise, popular solutions would integrate the idea

None of the major players are incentivized to care about this, especially not over other opportunities. Why would you expect them to integrate it?

One of the biggest wins you can institute for your own codebase if you use agents is writing your own harness, by a huge margin. The defaults are fine, but you can do better.

[Cpoll]

They're incentivised because they're offering plans at a loss and/or pricing out potential customers. All these LLM companies are competing on accuracy and price.

[onlyrealcuzzo]

> The defaults are fine, but you can do better.

Why can I do better than Pi?

I don't want to build my own harness and deal with the bugs... I want to build my project...

My understanding is that Codex / Claude / Gemini subscriptions don't work with custom harnesses.

It's pretty hard to beat 5x more usage if you have the $200/mo subscription by using the API instead.

[smallerize]

If you're looking for an efficiency-focused harness, I had a pretty good time using the Dirac agent. The line-based anchors were slightly buggy though (this was a couple months ago) and would sometimes add the same line of code multiple times or leave an anchor in the output.

[GodelNumbering]

Creator of Dirac here. Came across this too late. The behavior you mentioned happens more commonly in smaller models, rarely in larger/frontier models. The underlying code is clean but the smaller models often make boundary errors (off by one type). Which models did you observe this with?

[smallerize]

That tracks, this was a quantized version of GLM 4.7 Flash. I was surprised because I though this specific thing was not supposed to happen lol.

[hboon]

Codex definitely does and Claude Max definitely doesn’t.

[Bnjoroge]

definitely doesnt is a strong word. it technically is possible, but you might get banned

[hboon]

That was true. But actually, I think that's changed a few weeks ago since they introduced a API credit amount equivalent to your (eg. $100, $200) that will be used for such cases. So they don't ban you, they just bill you that allocated credit and then actual API cost.

[Bnjoroge]

Yes. That’s possible in addition to using your actual subscription. I’ve been using it via cliproxy for all harnesses and even my own code review agent hooked up to github apps. Not banned yet but I also dont do crazy stuff with openclaw or hermes