[submain]

Is that enough though? Women change their entire bodies, sacrifice years of their lives, and go through considerable stress to have a baby. And at the end, the benefits of that ordeal are not clear.

Society would need to offer something to offset all those costs.

[saintvlad]

> Women change their entire bodies, sacrifice years of their lives, and go through considerable stress to have a baby.

"Humans extinct, women most affected"

Pretty amusing how it's always framed as some terrible burden on women to justify more gibs. As if they aren't also the beneficiaries of society thriving and men never make any sacrifices for society. Or that, well, women also "benefit" from reproducing in the Darwinian sense.

[trumpdong]

pregnancy is literally a burden on women (and a few trans people)

[b0rtb0rt]

most people find great fulfillment in having children

[m_fayer]

We need a whole new generation of fertility medicine aimed not just at conception but the rest of it as well.

[int_19h]

What we need is uterine replicators.

[bluescrn]

'The benefits of continuing the existence of the species are not clear'

[none2585]

Unironically why care if this species continues?

[pixl97]

Because it will be very messy and involve a lot of suffering if unmanaged.

The population just doesn't disappear, it can pretty quickly shrink in just a generation or two leaving huge amounts of infrastructure unmaintained and falling apart with huge amounts of debt that will ensure what remains of society ends up in chaos.

That and the most likely part of the population to shrink is the ones we consider more stable and rational. Cults and religious breeding groups will increasing become the majority of the population leading to some 'interesting fun times'.

[incompatible]

The impact of humans on most other species, and the environment in general, isn't exactly positive.

[saintvlad]

That's the neat part! You don't have to care. It will either way. But it's not looking great for liberalism (and that's good thing).

[int_19h]

To the individual here it now, they are not.