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Michael Levin argues strongly for pancognitivism (https://x.com/drmichaellevin/status/2062862619480871365?s=20) and he could write a book but would enough people read it to justify the effort? Lee Smart observes that LLMs don't appear to have full self sustaining closure (https://x.com/VFD_org/status/2058207487254204680?s=20). Jürgen Schmidhuber gave a talk some decades ago and the audio went mute for a minute when he spoke of Plato and how ancients thought of thinking or consciousness (https://x.com/SchmidhuberAI), maybe track down his bibliorefs.

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Thank you for these links. Reading about pancognitivism and self sustaining closure is showing how complex the notion of consciousness can be, how its definition can vary from person to person. It also show how easy it can be for LLMs to give the illusion of consciousness when this is not clearly defined.