[NateEag]

I prefer ShortCat's model:

https://shortcat.app/

Similar to Vimium, but for the whole OS. Apparently Homerow is similar, judging from comments I'm seeing here.

I really wish I knew an equivalent for Linux. I might even leave Gnome behind if a different DE has a good model for this.

[turtlebits]

I like shortcat, but it's slow, even on a modern Mac.

Also, I'm not sure the dynamic nature of the hotkeys is a good thing. I could imagine if you use Mouseless for a long period of time, muscle memory might prevail as screen locations map to the same set of keys.

[tcoff91]

Some apps have crappy accessibility so Homerow doesn't always work in some apps. so I kind of want to try mouseless as well. I might end up rocking both at the same time.

[mjrusso]

Scoot supports element-based navigation (c/o accessibility APIs), plus grid-based navigation, via two separate modes:

https://github.com/mjrusso/scoot

Unfortunately both modes are necessary, because many apps have all sorts of accessibility issues.

[Barbing]

Brilliant, exactly what I need! (I think!)

[tcoff91]

This looks cool! I’ll have to try it

[khutorni]

ShortCat has a beautiful slogan:

"Manipulate macOS masterfully, minus the mouse."

[nine_k]

The picture shows it nicely, too.

(But I bet that most Macbook users don't even use a mouse.)

[vixalien]

You could try Hints for Linux

https://github.com/AlfredoSequeida/hints

[NateEag]

Thank you! This looks like exactly what I've been looking for!

The name is very reasonable, but effectively ungoogleable.

[nosioptar]

I haven't tried either yet, but vimium-everywhere and hints seem quite similar.

https://github.com/phil294/vimium-everywhere

https://github.com/AlfredoSequeida/hints

[nine_k]

I like Vimium. But does it allow you to do arbitrary drag actions, as this thing does?

[bobchadwick]

I used to use (and love) ShortCat, but it got too slow on my ancient MacBook Pro. I switched to Mouseless, and I actually prefer it now.

[jmarcher]

Yeah, I tried on an Intel MBP years ago when it was first launched. It was super slow, and I disregarded it. I just gave it a try on an M4 Pro; it's not instantaneous like Vimmium, but it is usable. I am sold!

[ActorNightly]

>I really wish I knew an equivalent for Linux

I highly encourage you to vibecode something. Its really easy. You can get a small fast library that can do OCR with coordinates, and the rest is just interfacing with the x server to draw stuff over the top.

[NateEag]

Thanks for the suggestion.

As one who's driving Claude daily due to corporate mandates, I can see why people fall in love with genAI coding, but my revulsion has only grown as I've learned to do it, so I won't be spending my free time with LLMs.

[aquir]

Thank you for this! I was looking for something like this for ages! Used very similar in browsers but never imagined to have a system-wide version!

[tmtvl]

Have you tried Ratpoison? It's got a bunch of features to manipulate the rat with the keyboard.

[nosioptar]

If ratpoisons features aren't enough, stumpwm might work well, it's like ratpoison with lisp.

Cagebreak is like ratpoison for Wayland. (I haven't tried it.)

I suspect awesomewm might be a good candidate too. I messed around with trying to make it more ratpoisony. The results were pretty good.

[NateEag]

I have not.

I've considered keyboard-driven WMs before, but have thus far gotten by using regular WMs with a few custom keybinds for window sizing, movement, and monitor placement.

As long as you have an automated algorithm for the basic layout, it works pretty well.

I still have to contendb with apps that don't offer the shortcuts I want, though, and that's when Shortcat is very handy.

[zuzululu]

This is purrrfect ;)

I've been looking for something like this

[UI_at_80x24]

Have you looked into Sway/i3?

[colordrops]

Did you look at the links, these solve a different problem.