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by hparadiz 7 days ago
The entire Windows operating system is doing it wrong. Seriously who daily drives windows these days. lol.
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Well before Windows I spent years with both Linux and Mac and I found Windows to be a good mix of stability and suitability for development now that WSL is a thing. Also for gaming it's the best by a long shot so just all around I've found it to be best and WSL made me never miss Linux.
Nah my frames on Linux beat yours easily.
Unlikely due to the better and more stable NVIDIA drivers available to Windows and the greater compatibility with every game without having to mess around with configuration files or other hacks. But you do you.
Of course just a personal experience, but I feel like I'm getting a much more stable experience with AMD in arch+sway/i3. Some of my friends with RTX5080s and such frequently crash on alt-tab or just simply from opening Steam overlay in their W*ndows setup.

Even with tiled windows I haven't had any game crash like that once. "alt-tab" equivalent takes 1ms and it just works. I can throw around the game window between workspaces, resize etc.

It's worth giving it a try. Unfortunate if games with certain AC setups are wanted, like GTA:O or LOL, but I can live without them.

Linux drivers are now first class and are faster and easier to install than any Windows drivers. There's no bullshit extras with them. They just work. Plus steam launches games in containers so there's zero configuration. If you don't know what you're talking about it is in fact better to say nothing than to just make shit up.
It's great that gaming on Linux has gotten a lot better over the last several years but let's not pretend like Windows still isn't far ahead on this

Also how can drivers be easier to install than on Windows when updating my GPU driver is one click?

Here's a pre-configured Fedora based distro that is zero clicks. You sign into Steam and go. Drivers are preinstalled. You literally sign into steam and hit play.

https://nobaraproject.org/

It's easier than windows (generally) because it'll just update with your OS. It's in the repo (sometimes) or a third party repo. It's automatic.
What? You need to _download_ drivers? They come pre-installed in modern distros.
I, who has to professionally support installs running Linux with Nvidia hardware, would personally say the situation is very far from ideal on Linux. I dislike this 'my dad can beat yours' kinda competition when it's very clear Linux still has significant issues to resolve.
Out of interest are they running OKM or proprietary driver?
> better and more stable NVIDIA drivers available to Windows

Huh? It's the same driver. It works the same on every platform. There's no consistent difference in performance (at least not between FreeBSD and Windows, it's been a while since I ran Linux).

I really find these takes hilarious. HN users are so far removed from the average person it's comical.
For one, the game developers that don't care about SteamDeck.
I do and I have no problems. Feel free to ask me anything.
Oh, you know, about 70+% of the global desktop/laptop market. Nearly every F500 company.

But yeah sure, no one runs windows these days.

Because Windows is the operating system of Not Getting Fired. Fear is a stronger motivator than creativity or productivity.
Nah, some of us gave up on The Year of Desktop Linux, especially on laptops, and decided to make use of desktop VMs instead.
Believe it or not, there's plenty of people that specifically choose windows, not just out of fear of getting fired or inertia. The idea that all devs use a mac and that windows is garbage for any kind of development is purely a silicon valley bubble thing.

And there's still a big niche that Windows is your only choice since the move to Apple silicon. If you need both a dGPU and access to commercial software, its literally your only choice. Game dev especially comes to mind if you're jumping between maya, after effects, etc. Windows is also huge in finance.

Windows _is_ garbage for a lot of modern development (except thise targeting Win32). But that does not matter to the ICT department tasked with controlling and securing all endpoints, preferring a single, very well known and controllable OS over freedom and performance.
At least it isn't Wayland, or having to mix and match configurations until hardware video decoding on Chrome finally works.
Wayland is a protocol. Not a program.

The top compositors right now for desktop are KDE Plasma, Hyprland, Gnome/Mutter and all of them implement the Wayland protocol independently.

For game wrappers Valve makes Gamescope (https://github.com/ValveSoftware/gamescope) which is also a Wayland compositor.

When you run a game through a wrapper like GameScope it will draw to the Wayland Server that GameScope is running and then that subsequently writes to the parent display server (which can actually be X or Wayland).

Anyway it's a far superior and more secure protocol than whatever Windows is doing and you should for sure have ChatGPT explain it to you.