[tobinfricke]

Any place that allows easy instantaneous subscription by a simple web form, but makes you call and talk to a person during limited business hours, is a toxic place.

Happily, this practice is illegal in California. Sometimes consumer-protection laws work ... and are necessary.

(As a hackaround, try using a VPN to make it appear as if you are connecting from California...)

[jjtheblunt]

> Happily, this practice is illegal in California.

that's totally irrelevant: Conde Nast for Wired is a shameless offender, for example. took me hours to cancel some autorenewing subscription i never subscribed for, perhaps enabled years ago through some dark pattern in iOS, but i genuinely don't know, and am not easily tricked.

[ceejayoz]

Wired once sent my dad to collections for an automatic renewal that wasn't even due yet.

[jjtheblunt]

it's disgusting these scammers just get to keep on scamming with no consequences