[dlev_pika]

We’ve dug this hole ourselves, without knowing better, over the last decade or so. Most social life / communications happens inside those platforms.

If we want our kids to thrive in the world without being hooked on this attention syphoning machines, we must get the socials out of those walled gardens.

This is a huge challenge, and no one but us will build it. It will require deliberate action in our community.

[jjulius]

It's a massive struggle. I'm somewhat thankful that we didn't have kids until after it was apparent what the impact of this sort of ecosystem has on them, and it's refreshing to meet other parents who feel the same way. Who knows what kind of success we'll have, but it's reassuring to know that there's a push from at least some subset of parents with littles.

[BeetleB]

> We’ve dug this hole ourselves, without knowing better, over the last decade or so.

I tire of hearing this.

We definitely knew better. I definitely did. Lots of people who did not opt into these services did. We were not silent about it.

Everyone else just refused to listen. Willful ignorance is how they got there.