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by jonathanlydall 7 days ago
No, it had absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the laces.

It was because I was essentially tying a granny knot instead of a reef knot and anyone who knows anything about knots would realize that of course they would keep coming undone.

And for the record, since learning how to tie the correct knot (over 10 years ago now), I’ve had no problem with laces that have come with any of the following brands of shoes:

- Nike

- New Balance

- Asics

- Converse

- Vans
1 comments
alt227 5 days ago
Lol, the fact you are name checking trainer brands in a conversation about lace quality tells all.

A single granny knot suffices fine with decent quality laces.

The ones that come with trainers are trash.

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jonathanlydall 4 days ago
But a standard shoelace knot is just so much better, not only can it hold for an entire day (even on, according to you, "bad" shoelaces), but its slip release makes it instant to untie at the end of the day.

Before when I used a granny knot, shoelaces were a regular nuisance for me, but since switching to a reef knot over a decade ago they have not been at all, and I have never had to buy other shoelaces either.

It confuses me that you seem to be defending the granny knot which is objectively worse in every way and you come across as wilfully stubborn to your own detriment.

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alt227 4 days ago
> Before when I used a granny knot, shoelaces were a regular nuisance for me

I know, you must have said this 2 or 3 times, and you are calling me stubborn?!

I'm defending the granny knot because its great. Its what we teach children, and it works perfectly fine.

As you are repeating yourself I will too.

I used to struggle before I started buying proper good quality laces. Now that I do, granny knots stay strong all the time and there is no need for anything else.

I am very happy with this by the way, you do not need to convince me otherwise. I am not trying to convince you to use them, only telling you that the opinion you are spouting on granny knots is incorrect.

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jonathanlydall 4 days ago
It appears we’ll have to agree to disagree.
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