[loeg]

> EDIT: I have been shadowbanned, again, by HN. I check this by opening this thread in a private tab, not logged in, and notice my most recent comment is not visible.

> I wasn't personally insulting nor aggressive in any comment I have made. I didn't spread disinformation. This thread is inherently political by nature, and I have been objective.

> It just goes to show, even here on HN, if you don't stick to the "THIS SIDE GOOD THAT SIDE BAD" narrative, your voice WILL be restricted.

> Again, RIP Marjane, you taught me a lot about Iran and the world.

You're not shadow banned, but comments peddling objectively false conspiracy theories and whining about downvoting do not play well here.

[keybored]

They made it political. We were just having a non-political thread about an author famous for critiquing the Iran government. Then they made it political.

[EB-BarringtonII]

This isn't fringe stuff, it's well known and documented, I would have thought most people commenting on a post about Iran would know this history, perhaps I can help you out:

"Conspiracy" Theory: "CIA/MI6 coup of 1953 that overthrew Iran's democratically elected government to protect Western oil interests"

Evidence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9ta... "On 19 August 1953, Prime Minister of Iran Mohammad Mosaddegh was fired by Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the Shah of Iran .... It was instigated by the United Kingdom (MI6), under the name Operation Boot and the United States (CIA), under the name TP-AJAX Project or Operation Ajax. A key motive was to protect British oil interests in Iran after Mosaddegh nationalized the country's oil industry."

If you find any evidence that says CIA/MI5 were not behind the coup of a democratically elected government to protect Western oil interests, please let me know, I'm very interested in this topic.

"Conspiracy" Theory: "verifiable institutional actors with control over media outlets, public figures, and politicians -pointing to a systematic, decades-long negative framing of Iran"

Evidence:

State Department records list CIA “Political Propaganda” work in the TPAJAX files. https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1951-54Ira... "CIA Confirms Role in 1953 Iran Coup" (from the National Security Archive) https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB435/ "American and British involvement in Mosaddeq's ouster has long been public knowledge, but today's posting includes what is believed to be the CIA's first formal acknowledgement that the agency helped to plan and execute the coup."

Since then, there is substantial evidence Western/U.S. coverage and official discourse has repeatedly framed Iran through threat, extremism, nuclear danger, terrorism, and regime instability. Rather than me spamming links, I will just say this evidence is very easy to find and read. If you have any evidence to the contrary, please present it.

"Conspiracy" Theory: "you almost never read anything good about Iran?"

Evidence: Go to the websites of major Western outlets such as BBC News, The Guardian, NYT - search for "Iran" and look at the first 50–100 headlines.

Then categorise them into things like: War/conflict Nuclear program Sanctions Human rights Economy Tourism Culture Science Daily life

Objectively, you will find mostly negative or negatively framed stories. If you find any evidence to the contrary, I'm very interested.

Are there any other "conspiracy theories" I have mentioned that are "objectively false"?

[loeg]

"I have been shadowbanned, again, by HN. ... It just goes to show, even here on HN, if you don't stick to the 'THIS SIDE GOOD THAT SIDE BAD' narrative, your voice WILL be restricted."

That's an objectively false conspiracy theory. We don't even need to touch the Iran ramblings.

[EB-BarringtonII]

Me: "here on HN, if you don't stick to the 'THIS SIDE GOOD THAT SIDE BAD' narrative, your voice WILL be restricted."

1) I open a private window and view this thread - there are five total posts by me. 2) when logged in, there are seven posts - this is what's called "shadow banned" 3) in the private tab, one of my posts is flagged, it's specifically the one where I say "this is what happens in our world when you don't uncritically and simplistically stick to one side bad or one side good"

Your response: "You're not shadow banned" HN response to my post: [flagged]

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You: "objectively false conspiracy theories"

Me: "CIA/MI6 coup of 1953 that overthrew Iran's democratically elected government to protect Western oil interests"

From Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9ta...

Title: "CIA/MI6 coup of 1953 that overthrew Iran's democratically elected government to protect Western oil interests"

In the opening paragraph:

"On 19 August 1953, Prime Minister of Iran Mohammad Mosaddegh was fired by Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the Shah of Iran .... It was instigated by the United Kingdom (MI6), under the name Operation Boot and the United States (CIA), under the name TP-AJAX Project or Operation Ajax. A key motive was to protect British oil interests in Iran after Mosaddegh nationalized the country's oil industry."

Your response: "ramblings"

You're really not very good at being faced with objective facts that interfere with your worldview, whether it's HN or Iran.