[vrganj]

This is risk to us and reward for them though.

[alansaber]

Exactly. Though with inference cost they're still only making money on enterprise use.

[TeMPOraL]

Because we're all paying for LLM access for shits and giggles, and not because we're getting actual value from it.

[vrganj]

I don't care why you pay for LLM access, it's still spamming my online forums and codebases.

[TeMPOraL]

LLMs don't spam on their own. Take it up with people who wield them.

[ben_w]

They kinda do though, in that instances have been observed to send unrequited messages even when the person/people in charge of some account didn't expressly ask the models to do so.

For my own use of LLMs, I do try to avoid anything which I know has a risk the artefacts they produce may end up DoSing or spamming, and I've avoided the OpenClaw-type pattern for a broader range of reasons of which this is simply one tiny part, but I'm not absolutely confident I could avoid this even in the code coming out of the free tier of the web chat interfaces except by checking every single line of output every single time.

[vrganj]

Nah, it's the technology's fault for enabling it.

[daveshistory]

Many companies would say that's the best kind of risk-reward balance. For them, anyway.