[felipeerias]

IMHO the sane position is essentially the Aristotelian one.

Hylomorphism: body and consciousness are intrinsically linked. The nature of that link is an open metaphysical question.

Virtue ethics: even if LLMs are not conscious, we should not abuse or mistreat them them because cruelty practised on anything trains one's disposition toward cruelty.

[krapp]

>Virtue ethics: even if LLMs are not conscious, we should not abuse or mistreat them them because cruelty practised on anything trains one's disposition toward cruelty.

This is the same argument used by people who claim violent video games cause real-life violence but there's no scientific evidence supporting it.

[zahlman]

> Virtue ethics: even if LLMs are not conscious, we should not abuse or mistreat them them because cruelty practised on anything trains one's disposition toward cruelty.

If they are not conscious, then how do we know what constitutes mistreatment?

[DangitBobby]

You don't know whether they can appreciate the abuse or mistreatment, but you can guess how your practiced behaviors will translate onto other entities that you know can be mistreated such as your loved ones and strangers.

[dwroberts]

> Virtue ethics: even if LLMs are not conscious

Why would this stop at LLMs? Why not extend it to every inanimate object?