[mrinterweb]

The Neo's value prop is great for many people. I keep needing to remind myself that most computer users can get by fine with 8GB or RAM, and that the I'm not the target market for products like the Neo. I do get nervous with how future proof 8GB of RAM will be in terms of total usable lifespan for the Neo. Maybe the idea is shortened timeline to obsolescence means more sales. Not digging on the build quality, but just if 8GB or RAM will still be fine 5 years from now.

[thebruce87m]

> Maybe the idea is shortened timeline to obsolescence means more sales. Not digging on the build quality, but just if 8GB or RAM will still be fine 5 years from now.

It’s products like this that mean 8GB will remain fine for longer. If every base model had 16GB then sites like linkedin would just add more bullshit to use it. Let’s keep the bar at 8GB please - we’re not really doing anything different than I was doing 20 years ago with much less.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47561489

[larkost]

While I worked at Apple a directive came out forbidding developers from adding more RAM to their systems without express upper-management permission. The reason was that the experience on stock-ram supported systems was getting really bad and management wanted the developers to feel the pain (so they would fix it). Note: dedicated compiler boxes were exempted from this (but still required management sign-off).

A similar directive came out about that same time forcing all managers to use the baseline phones, and limiting the upgraded models to only testing fleets, for about the same reason.

[mrinterweb]

I think devs forget how efficient and blazing fast server rendered pages can be, and ultimately what a great user experience non-SPA applications can provide. It seems like the dev community has locked in on SPAs for everything. There is so much complexity and other overhead associated with SPAs. At the end of the day a browser is rendering HTML + CSS, JS can handle some additional interactivity. Presently, we have some very complex SPAs that are handling large amounts of state, large dependencies (js libs), often optimized assets, etc. I remember people bemoaning Flash apps. I kind of feel like SPAs are kind of becoming the new Flash app.

[lifestyleguru]

Neither is normal - mere 8GB of RAM in a new computer, nor website consuming over 1GB.

In a defense of the latter case - there are many decisive people in the company explicitly demanding the website to be so bloated and overengineered.

[Centigonal]

> if 8GB or RAM will still be fine 5 years from now.

I actually think right now is the perfect moment for this!

I suspect that the massively increased cost of memory will limit the amount of memory in most consumer PCs from increasing over the next few years. In turn, this will create pressure on developers to memory-optimize their software.

[mrinterweb]

I agree with everything except

> this will create pressure on developers to memory-optimize their software

Ideally, yes, realistically, no. It is rare that I hear FE devs considering how much memory their apps are using. I really wish RAM use would be a much greater concern, but when I look at programs I normally run, I can tell RAM is not a concern (imagine me giving a dramatic accusing look at Docker Desktop, next-server, ...). RAM use for web pages is often not given much consideration either.