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by micromacrofoot 17 days ago
or you know, naming your company PALANTIR
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I had no idea it was a lord of the rings reference. Here’s an apt quote from wikipedia: “The [palantir] stones were an unreliable guide to action, since what was not shown could be more important than what was selectively presented.”
Just for the overly suspicious among us, I looked up the edit that introduced that quote[1] and it doesn't appear to have been added as a dig against the company.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Palant%C3%ADr&dif...

Well they weren't necessarily bad. I think the Numenor (?) Kings of Westernesse (?), I dunno whatever the old Gondor kings were called, used them effectively. It was just Sauron that took over and made them dangerous. So, effective but dangerous in the wrong hand. Yeah, I guess, even that is pretty prophetic, heh.
"The Stones of Seeing do not lie, and not even the Lord of Barad-dûr can make them do so. He can, maybe, by his will choose what things shall be seen by weaker minds, or cause them to mistake the meaning of what they see."

It really is the perfect name. It's exactly what I would have chosen, if I hated the company and was given a choice of names. But it's a terrible product name for any media literate customer.

It's another example of how the intentions of the good can be easily lead astray by the corruption power brings.

Using it as the name of a military contractor misses the point so hard I almost expect it to be intentional, but I suspect it's just teenage-boy level foolishness.

It's not just "just" when people as mature as teenagers are running politics and business.
sadly it's always been this way
So did the Numenorian bros Palantir call each other up just to be like WHAAZZZUUPPPPPPPPP
Just a regular reminder Peter Thiel thinks that Greta Thunberg is the antichrist and hesitated when asked if humanity should survive because the question is "layered". This is not a person that should be powerful.
Or, Anduril.

All the techbros love them some Lord of the Rings.

> All the techbros love them some Lord of the Rings.

While being completely oblivious to the literary themes. But as the meme goes, tech bro philosophy is just sophomore know-it-all-shallowly-ism.

Because reading deeply would require spending more time, which is a well-known anti-pattern.

They justify it as defending their way of life, which can align with Tolkien a little bit with some mental gymnastics

> I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend.

but overall Tolkien was against war, being a veteran of WWI himself, and the LOTR saga is about the heroism of the meek.

Peter Thiel clearly loves the sword for its sharpness, it drips from everything his companies do.

> Thiel clearly loves the sword for its sharpness

Palantir ceo too: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/alex-karp-wielding-a-sword

these people have never matured past childhood
the world makes a lot more sense once you realise there is no such thing as “adults”
I don’t believe any of them have actually read it, but rather watched the WETA production on film.
I think the movie was every bit as deep as the books. Remember how terrifying it was for Frodo to be seen by Sauron’s eye? No, they know exactly what they’re doing and they don’t care.
Except the movies leave out entire characters...

In the books Frodo was a wealthy middle-aged hobbit. Not some boy hobbit.

Book Aragorn was eagerly awaiting his time to be king. Movie Aragorn didn't want anything to do with it.

Book, Denethor is being controlled by Sauron via the Palantir, in the movies he's a brutish, cruel, tyrant.