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by nwsm 8 days ago
My 2017 RAV4 doesn't. I think "most" is an exaggeration
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https://assets.sia.toyota.com/publications/en/om-s/OM42752U/...

p. 196, step 3: Firmly depress the brake pedal.

Yes, my riding lawnmower manual also tells me not to clear debris from the blade while the mower is running. Yet somehow I don't think the mower will stop if I do.

I don't know if this model has a brake interlock on the ignition or not, but the fact that it's part of the instructions for starting the vehicle doesn't imply the presence of one.

My 2006 Baja and 99 Acura Integra both don't have one. My 2024 Ioniq however will start in "accessory mode". There are plenty of cars on the road today that don't.

I'm into pedantry just as much as you. You can't start or move a car within the last 16 years without depressing the brake pedal. It is a federal regulation. Quantified, "plenty of cars" is not a number.

https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-49/part-571/section-571.1...

https://www.nhtsa.gov/interpretations/alliance-114

I mean if we're being pedantic, unless there's something I missed the regulation you linked above only deals with shifting out of park, not starting the vehicle, but point taken, either Toyota has been flagrantly skirting regulations for a decade, or his car won't move without first depressing the brake (I don't think Toyota was making manual Rav4s that late, but haven't researched). I actually don't think my Accura will let me do it either (without putting a key in the bypass), but I'm not quite motivated enough to go out and check. My Baja is manual and would have no problem.

> Quantified, "plenty of cars" is not a number.

I mean did it need to be one? Unless you think I'm the only person whose managed to keep a car running over ~20 years the fact that we're around is enough to make it plausible we're talking a car predating them. But since your curious, it looks like ~40% of the cars on the road are from before 2010.

https://hedgescompany.com/blog/2024/02/average-age-of-cars-t...