[bonsai_spool]

> or it would make it impossible for the most toxic (non-criminal) team members to be fired.

The issue at present is that everyone is being laid off. If we accept this anti-union trope, let's t least accept that it is strictly better than the current situation where no job is safe.

[mattrighetti]

In my native country unions have crippled the job market and most of my peers don’t see any benefit from them, we actually hate them for the most part.

Unions are just another way to find a single solution that fits everyone and we all know how that turns out. They’re just be another bureaucratic institution for corrupt politicians.

Tons of evidence out there, especially in EU.

[bonsai_spool]

> In my native country unions have crippled the job market

We have to think about this critically. If there were no unions, do you believe there would be more jobs for everyone? If so, what is happening to those jobs? What is happening to the demand that would support those jobs? I'm missing some of the logic here, so want to understand better.

[geraneum]

Can you provide some concrete examples and sources?