[deltoidmaximus]

AMD just brought the popular 5800X3D back out of retirement to give people maintaining the DDR4 based platforms something to buy. Last I checked used DDR4 was half the price of used DDR5 after the prices of both shot up.

[dijit]

Shame I have 2TiB of ECC DDR4 lying around :(

Would be nice to be able to own property.

[arjie]

Better to get rid of that stuff now unless it’s fast. You can get used 2666 DDR4 for about $200/64 GiB stick.

[Hamuko]

You can probably get a mansion in France for that.

[varispeed]

People used to mock "you'll own nothing" as conspiracy theory.

[stodor89]

Yoo, what about the "and be happy" part???

[jmyeet]

So I have some DDR4 RAM that I should probably just sell because I've looked multiple times at building an AM4 PC and it's just not worth it. These parts originate from a PC where the temps were high and I wanted to redo the thermal grease and ended up breaking the motherboard and unfortunately I bent the pins in the CPU too (5800XT). Bending the pins was dumb.

Anyway, I just can't find a reason to build an AM4 PC even though the RAM is "free". It's just not worth it. If you need 64GB+ of RAM and the DDR4 vs DDR5 difference isn't significant to you then maybe it's worth it. Otherwise, you can still buy a 32GB DDR5 PC for similar prices to last year sometimes. It's not worth buying any AM4 CPU then the 7500X3D/7600X3D/7800X3D are so much better for the same price.

The 5800X3D re-release is kinda funny. AMD claims they had to do significant re-engineering but it is my understanding they stopped selling it in the US but were still selling it overseas. So did production really stop? Anyway, the price seems to be $349. If so, that's completely not worth it. It's the same price as the 7800X#D, which is significantly better.

As an example, here's a 7800X3D + motherboard + 32GB DDR5 bundle you can buy today for $629 if you happen to live near a Micro Center [1]. No AM4 option is going to compete with that, particularly not with a $349 CPU.

[1]: https://www.microcenter.com/product/5007391/amd-ryzen-7-7800...

[qingcharles]

Everyone re-releasing their old crap. Nvidia is remaking the 3060 too I believe because they can use cheaper older RAM on it.

[MegaDeKay]

I know what you're meaning but the 5800X3D is still a beast of a gaming CPU. It remains a great option for AM4 gaming.

[qingcharles]

You're right. Even my 2080ti is really great for gaming, Photoshop etc, and that's roughly the same as the 3060. Even does pretty good on smaller LLMs.

[vablings]

It's not even "old crap" the PC consumer market has basically died in less than year due to your average person getting priced out, I cannot imagine how catastrophic of an impact this is going to have on younger folk and the barrier to entry to desktop computing

[pezgrande]

A laptop with a 226v/256v cost around the same than the "cheap" Mac Neo and can play most games (old games native/new games with AI scaling)

[qingcharles]

Agreed. I'm actually using nothing newer than 2018 and you get a ton of bang-for-your-buck with this old stuff still. I have a 2080ti and it plays a lot of fairly recent games pretty nicely.

[sidewndr46]

I'm just waiting for Zhaoxin to break into the international market with something

[onli]

Nice, I missed that.

The 5700X3D has been the smarter pick back then, it fits to the current latent user hostility of AMD to focus on the more expensive processor.

[KeplerBoy]

That's literally the same chip. With pricing being whatever, who cares which one they revive.

[onli]

It also was the same chip back then and the price difference significant. But maybe you are correct and with the current conditions it doesn't make a difference. I dont know.

[silon42]

They need to sell something. I bet sales of DDR5 related stuff are down.