[BatteryMountain]

My problem with protonmail (and telegram) is that in my country, only scammers use those two services. So when I encounter these, I immediately distrust the person I'm interacting with and assume the worst. Even my one neighbor uses it and I distrust him immensely as he is not tech savvy yet he uses proton... its strange. How does he even know about it? He and his wife are not forth coming about what they do for a living, they seem to be nice people, but they both use proton. In our country its a huge red flag.

[sebastiennight]

When people are suspicious of anyone not wanting to be surveiled and spied upon, it says more about the state of the social group that it says about the privacy-minded individual.

And it means it's even more important to move away from that surveilance because it shapes opinions to sustain itself.

[reconnecting]

Proton isn't used only by scammers.

    site:onlyfans.com "proton"

[BatteryMountain]

OH.

[GoblinSlayer]

>How does he even know about it?

Maybe google locked their account.

[teekert]

I do get that, but that is what you get when you offer strong privacy, it's probably similar with GrapheneOS, and Signal (though there it's much less visible). When I see someone using Proton it's a signal they align with my values regarding privacy. To me it's a good sign, actually, one of the (friend) relations I have, started with "Hey you are also on Proton." Turns out she's a frequenter of hacker festivals etc.

I use Telegram for bots btw, nothing beats the ease of the Botfather.