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by lukan 16 days ago
"They have seen French and Brits also as not-aryans"

Not so simple, they also divided the german population by aryan and non aryan tried to "improve" by breeding programms (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensborn) and well hunting down all "inferior jews" and less so other people like sinti and roma.

And it is pretty established that Hitler wanted the UK as ally (who have been pretty racist at the time as well).

See also the flight of Rudolf Heß, which he did to make a favor to Hitler. (pretty interesting story, showing the delusion of the whole thing)

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I mean sure, it was about race, not about passport. German Jews were not seen as of german race. None of that contradicts what I said.

Hitler wanted UK as ally, just like he wanted Russians as allies as step 1. The plan was not to treat them as equals in step 2. UK jist was not dumb to fall into that trap.

Rudolf Heß was his initiative and attempt to avoid war, he was very much in minority.

"The plan was not to treat them as equals "

I think the honest plan was to accept UK as sea power and germany as the mainland power. Later .. open how things developed.

See also

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joachim_von_Ribbentrop

"I mean sure, it was about race, not about passport. "

But we agree it seems. I was just arguing against the common missconception of trying to understand the Nazis as Ultra-nationalists, while they were mainly thinking in racial terms. Not germany should have ruled the world, but the Aryans. (With germany at it's heart, but that was more a side point)

A parallel mistake is the widespread belief taught in schools that the essence of the Nazi ideology was anti-Semitism, rather than anti-Communism.