[yuye]

>The control arms, subframes, etc all look good and don't fit the 'chinese car bad' narrative you always hear.

While I think the "chinese quality bad" narrative still applies to many Chinese brands, this isn't as universal as it was in the past.

I think my eyes were first opened when I bought myself a Huawei phone(before the Google ban). My first few smartphones had been Samsung, I've always felt the term "planned obsolence" was the best way to describe these phones: After just a year, the phone felt considerably slower, and after two it was almost unusable.

Huawei flagship phones were similar in price to Samsung, but I felt they lasted way longer.

[HerbManic]

I have had a fairly good run with a lot of these Chinese phones. Huawei when we could still get them was great. Xiaomi is great build quality but they are rotting out their OS with too much bloat and up sell. Oppo has been brilliant in that they are built well, cheap and allow you strip out anything you don't want.

[yuye]

I had one of the last available Huawei phones, the P30 Pro, for 3 years. The only reason I had to get a new phone is because it got stolen.

>Xiaomi is great build quality but they are rotting out their OS with too much bloat and up sell.

I've tried Xiaomi phones in their stores a few times. I feel like they're trying to copy the look and feel of iOS in a way, and I generally don't like the iOS UX.

[beAbU]

Pre google ban huawei phones were incredible. 2-day batteries, great screens, fantastic cameras and an awesome price. I had a Samsung after my last huawei and it felt like a solid downgrade, even though the samsung was way more expensive.

FYI, if you are looking for a post google huawei, check out honor phones.

[handle584]

That's exactly how Chinese android market works, every phone/pad is No.1 upon release and within a few week's PR campaign. After a couple months a new one is released with another No.1 bla-bla, while the old one goes on life-support.

Also have to mention their ads, built into the system, when every app opens, when you switch back, f*king everywhere. The funny thing is if you switch language to English or use it overseas, some of the ads will go away, ironic.

[dzhiurgis]

MG ZS EV and BYD Atto 3 have a lot of issues in NZ/AU, so it's not without a merit. I'm sure they improved with latest models tho.

[King-Aaron]

Oh man I miss my Huawei phones. I had an Oppo at one stage too.

As an aside the best phone I ever had was a HTC One X, another brand that I sorely miss.