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by Zigurd 20 days ago
Instead of using a DeLorean, you asked FSD to drive you to a future where all of Elon's promises come true. By what decade will starship have 100 ton proven payload, and be reusable without lots of expensive refurbishment?

One thing that isn't going to happen is to magically extend the life of low Earth orbit satellites. You can have low latency, which you need for a telephone network, or you can have long lived satellites. But not both. You also need propellant to avoid collisions.

$250k is plausible for a high capacity cell site for an urban area. A small site with wireless backhaul can be $10k, or even less in some cases. If I am to believe the optimistic numbers, a Starlink bird costs about $500K and putting it into orbit cost of another $500K per satellite. But that means be believing that SpaceX can launch a used F9 for just $15 million, when the retail price of an F9 is $75 million.

EBITDA is the wrong yardstick when you're talking about space rockets having to deliver your infrastructure.

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Queries:

1) Why does Starship need to launch a 100-ton "proven" payload? Starship has already demonstrated it can launch dozens of Starlink v3 satellites into space.

2) Starship already has the heaviest payload and lowest cost-to-orbit of any launch vehicle ever, at $400/kg to orbit in its current fully expendable configuration. Why does it need to "be reusable without lots of expensive refurbishment" to show it's a success?

Even $400/kg to orbit is largely exaggerated; it assumes Starships are hand built and not mass manufactured, and also assumes no booster reuse, which was already demonstrated.

3) What do you define as "low latency, which you need for a telephone network"? The conference app Zoom requires below 150 ms latency, and recommends below 50ms latency. Starlink latency at its current altitude (~500km) typically ranges between 25 ms and 45 ms. Future satellites will orbit at ~330km, which will reduce latency further.

4) Why are "low latency" and "long lived satellites" mutually exclusive? My understanding is this is a adding enough propellant to a satellite, will make it long lived.

5) How can I get a small site with wireless backhaul for $10k? The lowest costs I see online are $20-30k.

6) You do realize the cheapest cellular backhaul sites at that price point are powered by Starlink? I.e. it's cellular equipment attached to a starlink terminal.