[functionmouse]

No. Changing one's primary operating system takes time, dedication, and is a lifestyle change, similar to moving somewhere remote. Changing ones AC filter is none of those things.

If you and your grandma only rely on the computer for its web browser, then good for you. You have flexibility that is not afforded to most people. But that's not how a person's phone works; phones dig a lot deeper into one's lifestyle, intentionally so. The walled garden was constructed to keep outsiders out, but now it seems the primary purpose is keeping those inside hostage.

[analog8374]

My mother-in-law recently became fed up with Windows and asked me to install Linux for her. I gave her Debian with a Mate desktop.

She loves it. Zero problems. It's been a week and she's using it just fine. No lifestyle upheaval.

[onemoresoop]

Your mother in law asked specifically for Linux?

[analog8374]

yes

[stonogo]

Nobody in my life even notices when they change their 'primary operating system.' They buy a phone based on what looks cool at the time, sometimes it's android, sometimes it's iphone. They move freely between chromebooks, windows, and mac os, because everything is online anyway. It's only 'experts' who have trouble with this.

[Hugsbox]

I'm the IT guy to most of the elderly people in my life, and steadily switching them over to Linux Mint over the years. Fact of the matter is, most of them use their OS as a gateway to their web browser, and don't care to do anything else with it. For many non-technical users, switching OSes is literally a non-thing. The only difference vs Windows is that they call me for assistance way less frequently.

[functionmouse]

Are you upgrading their release for them every year or so once it becomes unsupported?

[Hugsbox]

I put them exclusively on LTS

[thisislife2]

Partly agree. I once installed Firefox with uBlock Origin for someone who was Chrome user on an old PC and complained it was slow when browsing, and they told me that they didn't even know that there were different browsers available.

[john_strinlai]

you are telling me that everyone in your life freely swaps between windows and mac without even noticing a difference? no problems?

i call bullshit. i have worked in very big orgs. changing a single icon can cause a deluge of support tickets.

[alnwlsn]

I have family that would gladly use FacebookOS if such a thing existed and automatically loaded that and only that website as soon as you turn on the computer or phone.

[stonogo]

Congrats on your enormous org. The conversation was about families, indicating a non-enterprise environment. Try to keep up.

[MichaelZuo]

You make people sound like they are semi-automatons?

[Muhammad523]

If a 15 years old can do so (me) then other people can do so as well. I did not feel uncomfortable at all when i first installed ElementaryOS and then moved to Fedora. everything just works, i never ever had to worry about drivers or stuff like that

[wink]

I've been using Linux for about 27 years now and yet there are still some things I begrudgingly use Windows for (can also rephrase: one machine that does certain things).

I own more (and have them running right now) machines with linux than anything else and yet I'm not saying people can just switch. The problem is usually not "can do at all costs" but "can do with a reasonable addition of extra steps/relearning/tool does not exist/etc". There's some nuance and when I have some spare time I will (again) try to switch that one machine, but "it just works" maybe can also mean you're not using it for a diverse enough set of things.

In my case the reasons are actually quite boring: some hardware I couldn't get running and some (maybe minor) things that drive me nuts. The hardware is kind of a deal breaker atm. And yes, some people do a lot more weird things at home, my work machines were running Linux for 90% of the time since 2010ish.

[justaman123]

As a 15 year old your mind is flexible in ways that most people's are not. As you get older you will realize the cost of changing the way you are used to doing things. Take advantage of your young brain and try all the things

[misnome]

Also, infinite free time to learn, and no real cost to ongoing work by fucking things up

[bluGill]

Sure. Can you go down my well to replace the pump? Can you figure out what shots my cat needs? Can verify my companies books balances via GAAP? Can you tell me what the correct slump we need to make sure this bridge stands? The list of things I can ask goes on much much longer. In all cases you can learn to do that, but you cannot live long enough to learn to do all of the above.

[norren8]

Personal ability cannot be the universal baseline, sadly