[pftburger]

Yep, and it’s terrible

Not only did it burn a 100$ failing but it did so in a very untransparent way.

I bought a 20 dollar plan but they snuck a 100$ billed usage into the billing agreements next thing I know the agent as used the quote going in circles and my card is billed.

[reactordev]

We need outcome based billing...

I don't want to pay for a service that doesn't deliver.

[elevation]

> We need outcome based billing... I don't want to pay for a service that doesn't deliver.

You can already do this: hire a consultancy to build you a working deliverable for a fixed price. They will be incentivized to prompt their tools well and to avoid tools that are consistently pathological.

[somewhatgoated]

They will also charge a lot more than you using the service if they aren’t charlatans

Edit: actually they probably will charge even more if they are charlatans

[xbar]

Have you found anything that you like?

[trollbridge]

I’m so sick of this that I go to the trouble to set up prepaid cards to pay for these things now.

A handful of honest participants like DeepSeek are pay as you go instead of trying to sneakily bill you for usage.