[bluecalm]

Yeah it's years because they will slowly unload it to entities that are forced to buy (and as they do those entities will be forced to buy more). If you have money invested in those ETFs I think you may want to pay a bit more attention rather than making sarcastic comments unless you want to end up with 5%+ of your portfolio being invested in hopium by the end of 2028.

The threat is to end up with the bag, not that the bag explodes this month or the next.

[xienze]

> Yeah it's years because they will slowly unload it to entities that are forced to buy

I get your logic, but why all the handwringing over the short time frame for inclusion in these funds (days instead of a year)? None of that should be relevant if it's going to take so long to play out.

> unless you want to end up with 5%+ of your portfolio being invested in hopium by the end of 2028.

OK so, going back to the original question: the play is what? Move into bonds around IPO time and move back in when everything craters?

[bluecalm]

>>I get your logic, but why all the handwringing over the short time frame for inclusion in these funds (days instead of a year)? None of that should be relevant if it's going to take so long to play out.

It matters at what price the forced buying starts.

>>OK so, going back to the original question: the play is what? Move into bonds around IPO time and move back in when everything craters?

It's hard to say what's the play is because:

1)For many people making any kind of "play" triggers a tax event

2)It's not clear what ETFs to choose as currently there aren't many good options.

Imo one decent choice out of available ones are ETFs based on MSCI World Quality Factor index. It's not ideal because it still excludes companies like Berkshire Hathaway (because of accounting rules) but it avoids many suspicious companies (like MSTR) as well as mega IPOs. Unfortunately those are more costly (0.3% instead of like 0.05%). If you are in EU you and want world wide exposure you still need something for emerging markets (EU based ETFs based on that methodology exclude emerging markets).

You can also become an active investor but that's a job and I don't think many people want to take on it.

The main problem with going with bonds is that you are giving up equity premium and you still need to time the market for a comeback and that's very difficult.