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by trashb 16 days ago
> Today I cannot get a VPS without verifying my identity. Can you?

I think it is at least possible to do so in a identity opaque way if you wanted to using obfuscated payment provider, free email and possibly fake name/address (illegal).

I meant more without scanning an actual ID or face.

> I feel like it doesn't start like this.

Of course the train of thought is not "how can we break privacy" usually the concerns/problems are valid (I agree that social media is bad for kids). But in a lot of debates I am a part of privacy concerns are easily dismissed, not taken seriously or not the priority. I'm not talking about if technically private implementations are possible yes or no. I am talking about the conceptual step before that, "what is the impact of this request" how are we limiting people that can't or don't want to comply with what we are asking.

I feel like privacy is one of the most fundamental rights since it is at the root of a lot of other rights required for democracy. For example freedom of speech, freedom of religion, right to property and more. Privacy it is continually devalued, invaded and the right to it eroded.

That leads to undermining of the other rights as in this issue a lot of people are bringing up, in the article freedom to be anonymous is brought up but also the freedom of expression of young people.

The discussion should be the other way around, no options should be considered UNLESS it can be done in a private manner. The right to privacy is more important then the right not to be hurt by watching harmful content and therefore the responsibility of the government to protect privacy is of higher importance then their responsibility to not get you hurt.

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Yeah I agree with all of that.

I do believe that there exist ZKPs, but then it raises more questions, like:

- Do we ban VPNs? I don't think we should.

- What happens if the ZKP doesn't work? It's not okay to fall back to identity verification, but then does that mean that the services are blocked if the ZKP infrastructure doesn't work?