[iaaan]

I get that they're pushing AI really hard, but the article bearing so many of the hallmarks of being AI-generated almost feels crass, like there are no humans at the company who feel strongly enough about this device to author 5-6 enthusiastic paragraphs about its features, they had to outsource to something that can somewhat convincingly mimic enthusiasm. Yet I'm supposed to care...

[chis]

It's also shockingly twitter-nerd-coded. "The cure for token anxiety", it advertises. To be honest it's hard to see why anyone would buy this product so maybe they decided to take a wild swing with the marketing. The only use is people who really, really, want to run models locally vs getting a much cheaper and higher performance result from a cloud host.

[illiac786]

Higher performance, I agree, but cheaper?

I didn’t check how much this costs, but if you use AI locally a lot, it’s going to be amortised pretty quickly. Burning 100$ a month on tokens has become insanely easy. I remember when it was unimaginable for me…

[chis]

This won’t be able to run any of the cutting edge models. And the models it can run can be served from cloud providers for very cheap - like <$1 per million tokens for the latest deepseek.

It’d take many years to break even on your $6000 investment, meanwhile better and better models will come out that the DGX can’t run.

[girvo]

You top out at 20 tokens per second on hardware with memory bandwidth this low for any local model actually worth using. Doing the maths, it’s not financially worth it. Only worth it for privacy and control reasons.

I do love my GB10 Asus Spark-like though still!

[illiac786]

I don’t understand your calculation, can you elaborate? At 25USD/Mtk output, assuming your 20tk/s, I generated/saved (minus power costs) ~15k$ in a year.

Granted, it won’t run 24/7, but over a couple of years, this is definitely cheaper.

[chis]

This can’t run any models that cost $25/mtok lol. I think the fastest model it’ll reasonably run will be GPT-OSS 120B which costs $.05/mtok.

This is a laptop for CUDA devs and AI larpers.

[chis]

Speculation is it’ll cost at least $6k for 128GB