[AndrewKemendo]

I predicted on this site in 2016 the massive social and economic impacts AGI would have and specifically when RL data loops are not available to anyone but major players:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12168228

I even wrote up a whole article that specifically called RL loop based development as the future:

https://medium.com/@andrewkemendo/the-ai-revolution-will-be-...

> Reinforcement Learning tasks rely on ridiculous amounts of data. Whereas with traditional software architecture, where you accomplish tasks through explicit task instruction, RL trains for tasks based on millions of tests through a reward system. Most importantly once you have trained it to some minimum level, if you deploy it correctly, then it should continue improving — so long as you bake feedback into the UX. Imagine that instead of telling excel what to do, you and every other user will have a conversation with excel, improving the system incrementally.

[thoughtpeddler]

Agreed, and this is exactly what we see happening. Your posts back then were prescient ... there's literally now 'Copilot for Excel' and 'Claude for Excel' etc. But what do you propose the people/commons can still do at this stage to redistribute the inherent power found in RL data loops to a more stable equilibria of sharing participants?

[AndrewKemendo]

Great question and there’s two steps in my opinion:

First is to become as free as possible from lock in and own your own data. The best way to do this is the self host your own technology.

This is really not possible for the majority of people though.

So practically I always suggest that you have multiple providers for services, don’t pool your data any one place (other than your own place) and own your backups. This is basic stuff that we’ve been teaching since the 90s and still very applicable today.

The harder and more impactful thing is to then create community owned technology that is outside of the commerce model.

So for example imagine that instead of FAANG running the world, the largest tech and data orgs would look more like wikimedia foundation, Annas archive, scihub, Graphene, Linux etc…. and more generally that technology and governance are open and not bound to commerce/taxation/coercion based organizations.

Ultimately we need to create a democratic-technology movement such that capitalists don’t monopolize technology, which is currently the trend. This is not some kind of simple thing by the way, this is revolutionary economics is what I’m talking about.

My suggestion is to read Post-Scarcity Anarchism by Murray Bookchin