| I'm not sure you could consider Let's Encrypt "too big to fail" but if you can it seems like Moxie's position doesn't help? The "too big to fail" afflicts basically everybody in that case. Comodo / Sectigo is actually useful to illustrate how these decisions are made because we actually care whether you can stop having problems. Think like air safety or medical safety. Things go wrong, our job is to avoid scenarios where they keep going wrong for the same reasons. The first guy who trips and plummets off a bridge into the river below is enough, OK, yeah, barriers, we need to prevent you accidentally falling off the bridge. When you build the next bridge and somebody falls off because you didn't add barriers now that's a failure to learn and do better. Outfits like StartCom and Symantec the problem wasn't "A thing went wrong" it was "Things kept going wrong and either you lied to us about preventing them, or you're incompetent and your attempts failed utterly". There are a lot of boring "Brown M&M" record keeping steps, and for WoSign and Symantec the evidence available strongly suggested they were deliberately lying to us, but even if they weren't lying they were spectacularly incompetent, and that's not OK. As I've explained previously I strongly prefer to not care whether you're incompetent or lying, I want either explanation to have the same consequences. If we thought there was a problem with Let's Encrypt and it must be distrusted I think a transition plan like for Symantec is a lot more plausible than the sort of "Everybody makes their own correct decisions" fantasy Moxie promoted which, frankly, I think sounds like Libertarian claptrap. Such an approach requires that almost everybody cares and that's just not true about anything at all. > But that doesn't mean that it couldn't have been made to be interpreted differently But now you're talking about a different protocol. Feel free to go design your own protocol, like Moxie's. I doubt yours will fare better than his did, but "Why didn't everybody else focus on my preferences?" is silly. |