[badsectoracula]

I don't really use Plasma itself (and soon i wont even be able to if the rumors of them dropping X11 support are to be believed) but i do use various KDE apps, like Krita (which i use for most painting stuff), Kate (my main programming editor, coupled with clangd for C/C++ programming), KolourPaint, Spectacle, Ghostwriter, etc and in general i find KDE/Qt apps to be more to my liking in their UX than anything based on Gtk (or at least Gtk3-or-later, Gtk2 stuff is for the most part fine).

[datakan]

They aren't dropping X11, they are only dropping it in their new login manager. Change the login manager and it will continue to work fine for now.

[c-hendricks]

They do plan to remove X11 from Plasma Desktop as well: https://blogs.kde.org/2025/11/26/going-all-in-on-a-wayland-f...

[newsoftheday]

> Outside of rare special cases, yes, they will still work using the Xwayland compatibility layer. It does a great job of providing compatibility for most X11 applications

Not on my 4 year old PC. Wayland performs poorly and usually in wonky ways. I tried it for several weeks. Could not stand the odd behaviors and poor performance and went back to X11. And this is an AlienWare PC, cost me $2000 US, the most I've ever paid for a PC. Can't imagine how bad Wayland would be on the lesser PC's/laptops in our home.

[friedtofu]

Xwayland != Wayland. Xwayland is an X server and a Wayland client. I have a feeling that whatever performed poorly in wonky ways was due to whatever you were attempting to run rather than Wayland itself.

If you see this comment and ever decide to give the wayland session and whatever you were trying to run another go, I'd be more than happy to try and help you fix it.

I'm not a Wayland evangelist but as someone with an old(custom built) desktop myself who has used the Wayland session since it became an option, your comment reads to me as:

"Xwayland(and by extension Wayland on KDE) is bad, I'm not going to list any specific programs I had issues with or any of the troubleshooting I tried in the several weeks I attempted to use it but for me it ran poorly and/or strangely.

I have an AlienWare PC, which should prevent any of these issues from happening(?)"

[cfinnberg]

I have a 6 years old PC (around 1000€ at the time). The only problems I can think of were caused by Nvidia drivers. It's true there can be still some rough edges in Wayland, but at least for me, nothing that I can notice in my day to day.

> Can't imagine how bad Wayland would be on the lesser PC's/laptops in our home.

Thousands of users use daily distros based on Wayland without problems. Maybe you had bad luck and something on your system is not fully compatible. But for the majority of people Wayland works fine. Have you tried different distros?

[tmtvl]

Before I upgraded to my new PC (managed to get it just before AI sent prices into the stratosphere), I was using an older PC (2016~ish) without discrete GPU. It ran Plasma Wayland without any problems. My new PC (has an RX 7600) also runs it without any problems. I don't know what's wrong with your PC (I mean, AlienWare does make atrocious garbage, so it could be anything), but I expect it to run better on your lesser PC's/laptops.

[gmueckl]

I guess that this may be the day when I give up on the Linux desktop :/. I really love KDE, but I'm not ready to transition to wayland.