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by LeFantome 10 days ago
I am kind of the opposite.

I like retro computing but I never find myself using old software on old hardware. It is basically a museum piece sitting on a shelf at that point.

If I actually want to use my hardware, I want new software on it. If I am going to create software for it, I want to use modern languages and modern language versions. I want modern media codecs. I want to be able to read modern media and use modern filesystems. I want Linux on it if I can, including the conveniences of modern package management. I may want to use containers.

If it is going to connect to the Internet, I want it to be secure.

I do not want to deal with pointless compatibility problems, limited aofrware selection, or decades old bugs.

For me, part of the fun is seeing how much you can make old hardware do. And with new software, that can really surprise you sometimes. And in this age of the cloud, the hardware may not be the bottleneck you think it is.

I will give two examples. First, I have used OpenCode to write native software on old platforms. Toy compilers can be fun. The locally running software is not that demanding with the hard work being done in the cloud by a frontier AI but with the results tested locally and natively on the old hardware. This is a lot more fun, and makes more sense, than doing it in an emulator.

Second, the core of my homelab is Proxmox running on a 2013 Mac Pro. It runs dozens of VMs and containers. It cost me $200. Where else am I getting 64 GB and 12 cores for $200?

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this solution (hardware AND software) was built and designed for a time that no longer exists. i simply will never understand your attitude, when you can buy a raspberry pi and have a completely better experience in every way other than going "WAOW, Modern Firefox on my PowerMac"
Despite the venom, I do not need you to agree with me.

I am not going to feel foolish enjoying excellent keyboards and screens instead of whatever I cobble together for a Raspberry Pi.

And it seems you just decided to ignore the whole native dev thing as well as the homelab. How many virtual machines and software defined networks do you run on Rasberry Pi?

I guess it also depends on what you mean by retro. I got a 2013 MacBook Air for $50 almost 2 years ago to take on a backpacking trip. It runs Chimera Linux now, with packages from an Arch Linux container. I used it at the park for a few hours this weekend. I took a video call on it this morning. My Rasberry Pi is not going to be better for any of that.

Anyway. I am glad you disagree. I would like my old hardware to be more affordable so the less demand the better.

again, a lot of this hardware and software was built for a time and a place. to understand what they were creating and the limitations they faced.

waow! i am using facebook on an sgi! waow!

funko pops.

> I am not going to feel foolish enjoying excellent keyboards and screens instead of whatever I cobble together for a Raspberry Pi.

you can plug a nice input device and display into that. you uh... you knew that right?

> I guess it also depends on what you mean by retro

i literally said powerpc, so i guess, start there. x86 laptops are very common, insanely common in fact.

> Despite the venom, I do not need you to agree with me.

lol