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by infinite_spin 13 days ago
> It's as much "active destruction" as telling someone to eff themselves.

I'm no lawyer.. but this seems relevant: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1030

> knowingly causes the transmission of a program, information, code, or command, and as a result of such conduct, intentionally causes damage without authorization, to a protected computer.

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if someone told you to `rm -rf --no-preserve-root`, and you did it without even checking what the command does. is it their fault or yours?
both, and responsibility would depend on who had the greater knowledge of its ill effects

if I went around telling people new to linux to use that command to unlock some hidden feature, I would bear most if not all of that responsibility

> a protected computer

i dont think in any sense that these computers are protecting if they are intentionally running absolutely anything

there's no lock being bypassed, just a polite comment

As someone else noted, this software is from that remote, tiny portion of the world that is not subject to US law.
Not being a subject under US law does not prevent an individual from being held responsible under those laws. The US courts can still be used to extradite, or otherwise bring litigation to, a foreigner.

Furthermore, Germany has similar legislation: https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_stgb/englisch_st...

> (1) Whoever unlawfully deletes, suppresses, renders unusable or alters data (section 202a (2)) incurs a penalty of imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years or a fine.

So... I'm honestly not sure what you were trying to accomplish here, but even under German laws this behavior appears illegal.

If someone else installs it, the author didn't knowingly cause the transmission to the protected computer, the installer did
then slipping malware into a repository wouldn't violate this law either, which we both know isn't true

their intent is clear: to destroy information on another person's computer, when that person expects that not to happen (it's a testing library, not a nuclear weapon)

Based on the wording of the law, I think the relevant transmission is when the damage-causing command goes to the LLM. Who causes that transmission? I would say it's the person who wrote software to generate the command.