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>During this incident

In case you missed it, it was a different incident than the one we're discussing.

>You can, and should be able to, name your WiFi hotspot anything. Even any "Free <X>, Fuck <Y>" forall X,Y

Edgy idea, bro.

Not like a certain terrorist organization[1] with Palestine Liberation in its name[1] literally pioneered armed airplane hijackings for its cause, successfully[2] performing[3] quite[4] a few[5] of[6] them[7] back in the day.

> whatever your side is you have the right to express it.

You seem to have confused an airplane for a public square.

The captain of the plane determines the extent of your rights in-flight, taking many factors into account. Including the comfort of passengers.

You ain't got no "free speech" right to blast music on your Bluetooth speaker, and the same applies to edgy Bluetooth device names which everyone on board can see.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Front_for_the_Liberati...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawson%27s_Field_hijackings

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Al_Flight_426

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_840_(1969)

[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Al_Flight_426

[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Airways_Flight_255

[7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lufthansa_Flight_649

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The person you are replying to is all over this thread to such an extent that I think they should take their abundance of energy and apply it to becoming a commercial pilot so that they can ignore anything that aligns with their personal preferences.

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>Not like a certain terrorist organization[1] with Palestine Liberation in its name[1] literally pioneered armed airplane hijackings for its cause, successfully[2] performing[3] quite[4] a few[5] of[6] them[7] back in the day.

And? What's your point? You're implying that a pro-Palestine WiFi network name could even slightly plausibly be interpreted as a threat to hijack an airplane? You can't be serious.

Also, the whole idea of being over backwards trying to stretch things into being interpreted as threats is absurd on its face. A threat is pretty much definitionally intended to be understood as a threat.

As a side note, why is it that in these discussions some people are so quick to equate anything critical of Israel with antisemitism, but we never see much push back in the other direction? I find your insinuation that expressing support for Palestine means you want to hijack an airplane to be wildly racist.

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>And? What's your point? You're implying that a pro-Palestine WiFi network name could even slightly plausibly be interpreted as a threat to hijack an airplane?

If you actually read what it says, don't miss the "fuck Zionists" part of it, and know the history — it is something that can, at the very least, make some passengers extremely uncomfortable.

>I find your insinuation that expressing support for Palestine means you want to hijack an airplane to be wildly racist.

I find that you have no understanding of the words that you're using.

For example, a "Zionist" is any person who wants the existing state of Israel to continue existing — in any form — as a Jewish state, in exactly the same way that Ireland is existing as an Irish state.

This includes people who advocate for a two-state solution for Palestine, and, arguably, consider themselves to be pro-Palestinian.

Calling for a two-state solution is one way to express support for Palestine.

Saying "fuck Zionists" is another.

At the very least, it's an expression of hostility rather than support.

History towards a large group of people (nearly all Israelis, including 2M Israeli Arabs, pro-Palestinian supporters in favor of 2 state solution, and at least 9 out of 10 Jews worldwide), some of whom are likely to be on any large flight.

Now, an airplane is a place you share with a lot of people who can't get away from you during the flight, subject to basic rules of politeness, and you doing what the captain tells you to do.

You don't get to play your favorite music out loud on your Bluetooth speaker, even though that's your first amendment right.

The same applies to edgy Wi-Fi / Bluetooth names, which are visible to everyone on board.

It's up to the crew to decide what is, and what isn't OK to for you to do to protect the peace of other passengers for whom they are responsible. Everybody staying calm and attentive to the crew is a safety concern.

And it's your legal obligation to do what they say, which the person in question didn't do.

Disobeying captain's command is absolutely something that merits talking to the FBI.

On a ship and on a plane, the captain is the law.

Which part of this do you need help understanding?