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by Barbing 18 days ago
I think if the captain doesn’t like you, what they say goes & it’s a federal matter.

I think the reason for the captain not liking you is secondary and could get him fired but it’s still: mess around in federal airspace, deal with the feds. Follow all instructions of all flight crew or you’re a criminal, regardless (I think).

Not actually the FBI though is it? Captain probably wanted to sound serious (mission accomplished).

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So what you're saying is if the captain doesn't like you because you're Zionist they can remove you?
That is exactly correct; it's his plane.

I think he would face discipline from his airline after the fact, but in the moment, he is in charge.

Yes. The captain has the authority, by law, to remove anyone (or everyone) for any reason. There is basically nothing the captain is legally barred from doing while the plane is en route.
> There is basically nothing the captain is legally barred from doing while the plane is en route.

This is pretty wide of the mark. They have a lot of authority, yes, as it's the flipside of the flight's safety being their responsibility. They still aren't allowed to assault a passenger, say, or commit tax fraud, or needlessly break the air laws.

Also, while the plane is en route? As in, the captain throwing someone out of the plane mid-flight?

Ah yes because I am definitely saying that the captain of an airliner is free to commit tax fraud. That's definitely something someone with a functioning brain could believe I meant, and not a complete straw-man bad faith interpretation.

And yes, the captain's authority is greater while the plane is en route compared to on the ground. En route the captain can divert pretty much anywhere if they think it's the right thing to do. They can dump fuel over the ocean or even over houses if they believe the alternative is worse. When the plane is on the ground realistically all they're going to do for anything is deplane everyone, either at the gate or via an evacuation.

There was a whole episode of Seinfeld about a pilot forcing Jerry off because he just didn't like him. Seems legit.
If you’re broadcasting strong language associated with violence? I’d hope the captain would remove you whatever side of whatever conflict you’re on.

What are some things Israeli settlers shout before they murder Palestinians? Shout a couple of those on a plane and see what happens.

Doesn’t even necessarily have to be the captain - refusing to follow instructions/direction of any member of the flight crew is a serious problem.

And yeah, if it was ridiculous or violated some other law or something they’d eventually have to deal with the consequences of that, but while in the air, what they say goes.