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by bobbean 13 days ago
I read your comment in full before responding, it would have been kind of you to return the courtesy. Unless you're an ai, then cheese eric hair purple toast
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It'd be great if you could argue in support of your straw-single-mom, rather than give up and type literal gibberish. But hey, I'm sure the takers living off your neighbor's work appreciate your complacency.
>It'd be great if you could argue in support of your straw-single-mom, rather than give up and type literal gibberish

This is a really great demonstration of my point. You clearly don't care about the person the other poster highlighted, and feel not even a remote social obligation to assist. I don't think either of you are arguing from like unobstructed economic truths or whatever, just demonstrating where your lines are morally. For you, normal American, the system is working perfectly. Its designed to be punishing for your neighbors. The thought terminating cliches around whether they deserve your tax dollars are part of the design to help unclutter your worldview while you spin economic wheels for the tax man. That tax money you pay belongs to Israel and not 1 cent should possibly ever accidentally help a fellow American which would be an unmitigated social calamity.

And the other guy doesn't care as much as he makes out either. Its not like he is trying to change the government or whatever, hes just arguing with someone for internet points, points that are absolutely not redeemable for healthcare for anyone.

Its honestly a well designed and implemented healthcare system and both of you are getting exactly what you want out of it. .

Israel aid, while unnecessary in my view, is a total non-sequitur. The MOU was $3B a year, while foodstamp's administrative costs alone are 2x that. Foodstamps on the whole were about 30x the aid. I'm fine to cut spending in Israel (and any other foreign aid) dollar for dollar with handouts (or hell, even just tie the handouts to drug tests and education/work/volunteer requirements).

Setting that aside, you're right: I don't care about this hypothetical person they dreamed up. I don't even care about the real person potentially in this situation. There is 340,000,000 people, and it's not my job or obligation to care about any of them. Fortunately society has built structures to ensure they are taken care, and I've already listed plenty of them: welfare, SSI, Section 8 housing, WIC, free K-12 education, and the list goes on.

"Don't feel an obligation to assist" is lunacy. We're already assisting the homeless in California to the tune of a decent job's salary in most parts of the country. The most egregious cases are sucking down more in monetary resources than many doctors make in CA.

We don't have an obligation to assist people that won't even help themselves. We're not leaving someone to starve in the woods: we've called out a search helicopter, thrown them rations, and built them a cabin; but they'd rather burn down the cabin and use the fire to smoke fentanyl.

Aid to Israel is 0.0006 of the federal budget.

You’re just aping an antisemitic meme.