[musicale]

> MPW was a submarine project, from UNIX background engineers, to eventually replace Pascal with C++.

According to Wikipedia, the first commercial C++ implementation came out in October of 1985, MPW was released in September of 1986, and MPW C was released in July of 1987.

C++ seems to have been added sometime in ~1988 (??)

Think C 4.0 (later Symantec C/C++) with (C++ like) object extensions seems to have been released for the Mac in 1989.

[pjmlp]

You missed the MacApp part for doing Mac OS development.

And the later collaboration with Metrowerks and the PowerPlant framework.

I mentioned the podcast, because Wikipedia is not the source of universal truth.

[musicale]

I was just trying to put the timeline together, as C++ doesn't seem to have been particularly production-ready when MPW was released (though I could imagine it had fans anyway.) Also Think C has been mentioned on HN a few times.

I looked at the intro to some of the MPW C++ documentation (before posting above, thank you internet) and I think it said that MacApp could be used via the C++ to Object Pascal bridge and that a native C++ framework would be forthcoming.