[Quarrel]

wtf is this comment section?

The author of these commits were tridge & claude.

What does tridge have to do to convince the open source community that he might be a legit programmer & have a clue?

Samba? Whats that? Rsync? Never heard of it. Tivo? No clue (maybe more Australian context here than others, but still).

Even the comments on the github issue, are totally devoid of the context that this is a very senior open source contributer who has maintained this project since he came up with the diff algorithm during his Phd, started the project and now chooses to acknowledge that he's using claude.

Is there any evidence that the bug rate on rsync is any worse than it used to be? or just a screenshot from mastadon?

It is just so bizarre to me.

[oytis]

I'm not sure about tridge personally, but I've regularly seen real competent engineers introduce obvious hallucinations when using coding agents. Review fatigue is real, and you just cannot own the code you didn't write to the same degree as the one you wrote

[watwut]

My consistent observation is that seniors who do only or mostly code reviews for several months end up making worst and worst code review. They nitpick thinks that dont matter more and more ... and miss big architectural issues, maintennability issues and bugs more amd more.

There is no reason to think reviewing AI code more then writing own wont have the same effect.

[ShinyLeftPad]

> this is a very senior open source contributer who has maintained this project since he came up with the diff algorithm during his Phd

People change. You can be Linus Torvalds for all I care, if one day you wake up and start pushing 9000 line commits created by LLM and with regressions, you're not that person anymore.

[Eufrat]

Also, a real example is Steve Yegge.

I still have no idea what on earth why or is Gas Town. Also, he facilitated a crypto rug pull around it because he claimed the money to help support Gas Town was too good to pass up. People have lost their minds with this.

This is just a tool and it’s making people have brain damage. I don’t want this reality. It’s too stupid.

[Quarrel]

But DID anything change?

Of course I know that some people can just becoming psychotic out of nowhere. But why would I assume it?

[ablob]

According to the thread rsync broke for incremental backups and increases the cpu load heavily. The whole thread only started because people noticed regressions and were wondering what happened.

Since I quite a few users are using distros that won't update for a while it gets even better: this trend may continue and as soon as the update actually happens we'll be so far down the road that it will be too late to take a step back and reconsider due to the delayed feedback. This is pretty much about the few people _already_ having issues with it.

That being said, if the creator wants to use AI to work on the project they are free to do so. I just hope nothing of value is lost because of it.

P.S.: If you stop writing by hand and start delegating - to AI or other people - something has changed. There shouldn't be any discussion about it. Delegation is different than writing it yourself.

[yw3410]

Yes, according to the git diff and the comment here https://github.com/RsyncProject/rsync/issues/929#issuecommen....

A change in the sys calls that are used. That's pretty sensitive in general I think; I can see if it were introduced by an LLM why people would be upset if they experienced data loss from it.

[ShinyLeftPad]

Do you think LLM use is evidence of psychosis? I think it's a widespread problem but probably not psychosis.

[pojzon]

At least once a week we have a post on HN about CEOs having AI paychosis. Maybe there is something to it.

[ShinyLeftPad]

I like the term paychosis

[izacus]

> Is there any evidence that the bug rate on rsync is any worse than it used to be? or just a screenshot from mastadon?

There's plenty of evidence that rsync 3.4.3 has broken a bunch of features like incremental copies, yes.

Which is why your post is a great proof of how AI derangement can make previously great engineers output broken dangerous slop.

[thevinter]

Has rsync never broken features before, without AI?

[fg137]

Have features been broken in patch versions?

[izacus]

I don't remember of any examples, no. I'm sure you can use your clanker to answer that though and also plot out the number of occurences.