[mft_]

I disagree. I suspect the vast majority of Neo sales are simply driven by the ability to get Apple-quality laptop hardware for such a low price. As such, the people driving the Neo sales are competing manufacturers who offer cheap nasty plastic underpowered Windows laptops around that price point.

A small minority of buyers may be primarily buying the Neo to escape Windows; but I would argue that if someone is this sophisticated, then they would also be aware that Apple is slowly taking a similar enshittified path with MacOS.

[IFC_LLC]

I think you severely underestimate the power of Copilot. It's the absolute worst thing for windows.

(I've been using Microsoft since Windows 3.11, till Windows 10. Windows 11 was the last drop for me.)

[mft_]

> I think you severely underestimate the power of Copilot. It's the absolute worst thing for windows.

I agree with you, but I think you've overestimating the level of technical sophistication of the typical Neo buyer.

> (I've been using Microsoft since Windows 3.11, till Windows 10. Windows 11 was the last drop for me.)

Kind of proves my point. I can think of plenty of people who use computers successfully every day who would unlikely to confidently state the name let alone the generation of their operating system, if asked.

Just by being on HN, you're probably multiple standard deviations from the mean.

[bel8]

I would buy a Neo to escape Windows but it's not like macOS is a pleasant experience either.

My next mobile workstation will probably be an arm laptop with Linux for great battery life.