[adolfojp]

Reality gets very grim and you lose hope in others when you see people who you thought otherwise reasonable defending this.

You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. Perfect is the enemy of good. This is acceptable collateral damage. The number is surprisingly low. I've seen so many bullshit justifications like these.

[onemoresoop]

At this point, I can’t think of anything else than these people are completely brainwashed, repeating bits from their propaganda. It’s completely impossible to reason with them.