[joquarky]

As an aside: why have we allowed marketing people to take over?

[marcosdumay]

The marketing people didn't take over. Some self-aggrandizing self-destroying billionaires did.

I'm not sure why we allowed it, but they have been working on it for more than 50 years. My best guess is that they just kept insisting on it until people lost attention for an instant, and then did it again, and again.

[queenkjuul]

Unfortunately the West has yet to have their socialist revolutions

[marcosdumay]

What's "the West"?

UK an Germany practically invented the concept, and the US practically wrote the manual on how to make a welfare state.

[queenkjuul]

Hilarious