[juleiie]

There is no such thing as good person or evil person anywhere else other than in human society.

It’s just a brain fart to make you cooperate and evolutionary survive. You don’t need to listen to this primitive instinct. You can just choose consciously what you think is the best.

Do not share or propagate or promote this view however. Our society only works thanks to most people being slaves to these tremors.

Sometimes I get an impression that it isn’t even a freedom of choice, some must perceive themselves as "good people" as a highest imperative. Whatever that means for current century.

I like to view myself as grey person.

[bawolff]

> You don’t need to listen to this primitive instinct. You can just choose consciously what you think is the best.

Which is why we have jails.

[juleiie]

Which is why my only enemy and true life long hate target is the government. Not that I do not appreciate its function, but the only solution to eat a cake and have it too is to become politician and be the government.

Become part of the system, get it to work for you. Seems like very popular hobby in some circles

[bawolff]

Personally that is not for me, but there certainly exist people who follow that path. But it is a dangerous path, take too much and there is a popular revolution and its off with your head (or more realistically you piss off the wrong person and get in some sort of trouble).

Society is a dynamic system with lots of forces acting on it. Everything is balanced with various controls to stop any one person from taking too much advantage.

[layla5alive]

"Our society only works thanks to most people being slaves to these tremors."

If everyone defects, the system breaks down. Morality is good and it is actually logical - it solves the prisoners dilemma and pushes cooperation instead of defection. It also reduces harm and has lots of other good properties. I feel that how we affect others matters, but even if you're just a sociopath doing the math, defecting is a strategy that burns things down at scale, not a smart one. Tit for tat with forgiveness is not only morally aligned, but also more prosperous in scenarios that aren't just one-off interactions with strangers.

[juleiie]

Morality is very good, please always obey its principles.

You must be aware though that some people will stab you in the back if the reward is bigger than widely understood consequences. I mean no wonder society is wired to hate that, this is a true critical code execution vulnerability that will never be patched.

This is also the reason why we have decentralised governance systems such as democracy. It isn’t about preventing psychopaths, it’s about pitting them against each other.

It’s not about having zero bombs. It’s about having enough bombs to destroy everything if someone drops a single one.

That’s the pattern and framework of how to tame warring monkeys into skyscraper builders.

When an earthquake forms a mountain it doesn’t do this consciously from what we know. The same is true for skyscrapers. Of course on an individual level there is an illusion of signing papers, a development plan. But what really happened was two ambitions colliding in massive clash and the resulting force just so happens to point up in the sky.