[herewulf]

Absolutely, and this is also a big deal for longevity of your purchase. I have an iMac from 2012 and it's a beautiful piece of reliable hardware, with a beautiful screen. However, the software is stuck on some version of macOS from years ago and so more and more applications are refusing to install. It's on life support with Firefox ESR and MacPorts (just recently — was on Homebrew). And it works fine for browsing and some light FOSS gaming. Not if Apple had their way though! They think it ought to be in the dump and I should have bought something else by now.

Well, I have a Framework 13 also, running Linux, and despite the hardware being from 2022, it's all current software. And it will continue to be, practically as long as I wish it.

So, yes, if we want to talk about value (like the author of the article), where is the value when some capricious corporation decides when you are done with your computer?

[ildon]

While I don't dispute that Apple might or might not exploit its users via software, I believe some more credit is due to a company that can produce a piece of hardware like a personal computer that runs so smoothly after 14 years that its owner complains that more software updates should still be shipped to the device. I do not know of any other device that I could but as a consumer that would last that long. The framework laptops might be an exception, but they most definitely still need to prove it.

[bigyabai]

> I do not know of any other device that I could but as a consumer that would last that long.

Are you serious? I literally have piles of 15+ year old x86 and PowerPC laptops that have perfectly functional hardware but no software support.

[rjrjrjrj]

> I have an iMac from 2012

> Well, I have a Framework 13 also, running Linux, and despite the hardware being from 2022

Please be sure to add a comment in 2036 on how your Framework/Linux experience worked out.

[okasaki]

My thinkpad x61 from 2007 runs the latest Ubuntu and software

edit: and has the same amount of ram as the mac neo.

[rjrjrjrj]

1024x768 low-dpi display, Core 2 Duo, etc

"Runs" doing some lifting here.

[okasaki]

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

[einsteinx2]

That iMac should easily run Linux, why not install it? Also I don’t know what else to call hardware that’s still working great 14 years later except for longevity…