[sfjailbird]

It's funny how Apple has come full circle. Back in the 90s, when they were in deep crisis (before the second coming of Jobs), it was almost conventional wisdom that they should just stop selling hardware, and focus on their superior software. And here we are today when a lot of people lust for the hardware, but just can't deal with MacOS.

[joxdosba]

> And here we are today when a lot of people lust for the hardware, but just can't deal with MacOS

Are there actually a lot of such people? Linux-on-desktop users are certainly loud, but also extremely uncommon.

[bayindirh]

I'm a "Linux on Desktop" person, and the reason I use macOS on laptops is it's the best non-Linux OS which works great with Linux and comes with great hardware.

The funny thing is, I'm using macOS for ~20 years now, and there are "still" things which are way better on Linux. As a result, macOS is a laptop-only secondary OS for me.

I have a couple of Desktop computers both for work and personal use, and they run Linux exclusively, for 20+ years.

[3form]

I'm sure a lot of the crowd that's using Windows as more than a browser OS would also find things to complain about. There's a ton of differences in how to do things at OS level, having to find other software, from time to time poor hardware support, different security mechanisms, being locked out of 80% of PC gaming by OS more than ARM... I guess the list could go on.

[throwaway21856]

I'd partly count. I've always run a mix of Windows and Linux (these days mostly through WSL), but for whatever reason I find MacOS bothersome compared to a Linux desktop.

Strictly speaking, I'm not yet ready to move off x86 either, but it's getting harder to find high quality hardware in the PC world.

[aurareturn]

They're very loud online. If you hang out in any technology forum online, it feels like everyone is running Linux on their mac/Lenovo/Framework/etc.

[rjrjrjrj]

No, but they are all on HN. And before that, Slashdot.

[insane_dreamer]

I switch between Linux and MacOS on a daily basis, and have been running Linux since Ubuntu Warty Warthog, and I don't get why people don't like MacOS. It's a fine OS and in some ways superior to Linux. And the Mac hardware is second to none. Power management alone is much better than Linux.