[BeetleB]

> brush your teeth for you

aka electric toothbrush

> wipe your bottom and genitals after the toilet

aka a bidet (or a toilet seat with a bidet)

> robot to bathe you

aka a shower

> dishes

aka a dishwasher

> laundry

aka a washer

If you want to do stuff yourself, use a manual toothbrush, learn how to wash your own clothes without a washer (people do this all the time, BTW), wash your own dishes without a dishwasher, don't use dry cleaning services, and use a bucket to take a bath. Also, don't use a vacuum cleaner.

> but I can't shake the feeling that you lose something about being a living, breathing being when you give up these mundane chores.

Say that when you have 3 kids, and cook most of the meals (i.e. no takeouts).

[jasonfarnon]

Maybe things have changed but finances mostly forced my kids and those in the neighborhood to grow up this way. No dishwasher, bidet (we're in the US anyway), electric toothbrush, and definitely cooked all meals. Maybe takeout pizza or chinese every couple months? Is this really so outlandish to you?

[wartywhoa23]

Well, if everyone would find living the old way perfectly normal, as you and me do, how would the big guys get their ROI and become even bigger?

One does not simply invest in something new without any effort to make the old look medievally obscurant.

[BeetleB]

No - it was the same with us (OK, we had a dishwasher, but for much of my adult life I didn't).

The key is this:

> finances mostly forced

For a while I even hand washed when I did have a dishwasher. Then I realized that was a mistake and I started utilizing it (the dishwasher uses less water, and less energy to heat the water compared to my running the tap on warm).

The point is that after N kids, it stops being therapeutic and merely something you just have to do, and you're happy if you can afford a way not to do it.

[wiseowise]

Weird leap. If we go by your logic, then broom is replaced by a vacuum cleaner. Automating something completely, aka getting someone to for it for you is a completely different thing.

[Paracompact]

Do you have anything against pressing the self-clean button on your oven rather than busting out the wire brush and baking soda?

[wartywhoa23]

I call that harpoon logic or half-dimensional logic. Works this way:

A subject is at the top of a cliff, facing the sea.

"I'd like to see the sea scenery better by approaching the edge".

A step is undertaken. The harpoon enters the mind.

"Oh, so I took this step, I've got to take another one".

N steps are undertaken. The subject is at the very edge right now.

"But hey, one can't stop the progress. Red lines, enough is enough, notions of overdevelopment etc are all excuses for luddites who don't value the merits of automation, easing the humankind's burden and removing all obstacles on the way to the best sea view".

A step more is undertaken.

Thunderous applause, turning into a standing ovation. And... Curtain!

[margalabargala]

> don't use dry cleaning services

I agree with the rest of your comment but fuck dry cleaning services. Who does dry cleaning regularly?

[NewsaHackO]

I could be completely wrong about this, but I think a lot of women causal clothing specifically recommend dry cleaning, compared to men (unless you are in a field that wear suits everyday).

[l23k4]

This is maybe sort of true, but few garments that say "dry clean only" actually need to be dry cleaned. This has typically more to do with laziness on the part of the manufacturers.

Things like lining, interfacing and structure are often strong indicators that a garment actually has to be dry-cleaned. I think those are at best only very slightly more common in women's casual clothing.