[jaynate]

Feels like we’re continuing to trend toward deterministic workflows which may actually be okay in 90% of cases. Reality is there’s a lot of unnecessary token burn happening right now. Simple market dynamics will solve that, i.e., when token cost subsidies begin to fade away and we face the true cost of agent applications.

[btbuildem]

Bingo. All this agentic hype is just people discovering POCs. Yes you can hodgepodge semi-reliable solutions where you don't really know what you're trying to build so you wrap it in a layer than can sometimes approximate logic and decision making, so that you don't have to use logic or make decisions. Amazing.

Sooner or later you have to build the real thing, and the cost and slowness of token-based computation become unacceptable.

[jaynate]

Yes, and the free-for-all building of nonsense (and insecure) apps by non engineers is probably going to slow down as well.