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by btilly 22 days ago
> Why are you escalating this? I didn't personally attack you or question your comprehension, I'm challenging some of what you said.

On personal attacks, you literally said that it looked to you like I am part of a productivity death cult. How was that not you attacking first?

Moving on, What you challenged was not what I said. It was a misunderstanding of what I said. A misunderstanding that is directly contradicted by what I DID say.

To verify, re-read the thread. Note where I first said that we should not reduce human interactions. And then realize that if we're not reducing human interactions, we're certainly not replacing human interactions with AI interactions.

> Not a strawman. I'm addressing a broader context than just you, while relating it to what you said about the AI being "available" when humans weren't.

In other words what you had to say should have been addressed to some other group, for some other reason.

Meanwhile, what I said is true. I have a number of people I get feedback from. I value it. They're there for me, I'm there for them. But if I want an extra 5 rounds of feedback, I'll feel guilty for disrupting my friend that much. I won't feel guilty after asking that from an AI. And unless a friend is in crisis, I wouldn't be happy with a friend who regularly demanded that much from me.

AI connections are not as meaningful. But they are definitely more available.

> None of this was in your initial comment, how could I guess? This is additional context that does, indeed, change some of our conversation.

Bullshit.

I said up front that I have personal reasons for wanting to be a better speaker. The default assumption when someone says that they have personal reasons for something, should be that they have personal reasons for it. And that their reasons are at the very least meaningful to them.

You didn't. You assumed the worst of me. You then misread me to be worse still. And then were confrontational about it. And now are standing on, "Who me? How could I have guessed at all that?"

> Yes, but let's be honest about what "helpful" means here, and to what end. Perfecting a speech (or helping you perfect it) doesn't seem to me a particularly necessary use of AI.

Since you've been honest, I'll be honest back. If you gave a shit, you'd know what my goal is. It isn't perfecting any given speech. You'd also know why it is important to me. And if that isn't enough in your books to justify what I'm using AI for, then I'll ignore your opinions on the matter.

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You seem very defensive and angry, I have zero interest in discussing anything in that tone.
Wonderful strategy.

Take something that someone else said. Come out swinging at a distortion of what they said. Then if they call you on it, say, "You seem very defensive and angry." Thereby dismissing what they said without having to engage in any self-reflection.

You'll always be right in your own mind.

I'm sorry you feel this is a "strategy". Nothing was intended as personal. Something you said made me react with a reflection on AI and the productivity threadmill, but I wasn't criticizing your personal experience, much like the poem wasn't either.

Your insistence on framing this as someone "swinging" at you is a mistake.