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by nolok 14 days ago
Not parent, but Tesla is currently worth more in the stock market than the ten biggest car seller combined

That's with falling sales, with no new product in sight and their latest release a big dud (despite SpaceX ordering massive amount of it to prop it up), and with a pricing and thus margin that is going to be massively lowered or beaten by Chinese ev. Protectionism by the US can only go so far, the US alone doesn't have a trillion dollar worthy car market.

They're also losing the race in self driving, and the biggest innovation in EV (semi instant charging) is coming from China not from them.

They had a lead and a massively advantageous legal situation and they squandered it, now you add the association of Elon to the brand making it toxic in many places and it's not looking rosy, the brand can be fine but it's valuation at one point or another will have a wake up day.

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Tesla's EV is worth about the same as the the EV of the term biggest car companies combined. It is highly speculative, but their current new product is the Semi, which started volume production last month, and they have the robotaxi and Optimus in the pipeline.

One advantage they have over other manufacturers is their willingness to move into (and out of) adjacent verticals to optimize product cost/design/etc.

They could be beaten by EVs from China/etc, but only time will tell.

European truck manufacturers like MAN and Scania have already had electric semi-trucks on the market for years. And they are selling, the Danish transport giant DSV alone has 400 driving around Europe.
That's about what one company ordered last month (370).

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-massive-order-semi-370-units...

It looks like MAN/Scania combined production last year, including buses, was about 1000.

https://www.sustainabletruckvan.com/traton-scania-man-electr...

Estimates for semi production this year are 5000-15000.

https://sherwood.news/tech/what-we-know-about-teslas-semi-tr...

They're second in the race to self driving after Waymo, they're making the Cybercab, seems to be working out great as their cars will cost way less than Waymo's